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THE FINAL CRY OF THE GODPOD
Jul 9th 2009, 01:22 PMFirst off. lets deal with that, constantly recurring, cry of the godpod;
'Yeah, but you can't prove god doesn't exist, can you?'
This is uttered by them every time they feel they are loosing the god - no god debate.
They cry this out with a smug sense that suggests that they have flummoxed the opposition and in a way that also signifies the end of the discussion.
In fact, the 'you cant prove god does not exist' argument is an exceptionally weak and silly one. And I will tell you how you can prove this to them.
Say something like:
'Under every chair is a spiritual being that, if it chose to reveal itself physically to us would take the form of what we would call a dragon.
Each of these dragons is a messenger of the great dragon king who created all things.
They are there just waiting for us to recognise their existence and ask them for help. If we were to do that then we would have a life so fulfilling that there would be the potential for mankind to live in paradise on earth. If only we would accept them and worship the dragon king.'
Then ask them to disprove it.
Then when they try and say that you are being silly, ask them this:
'If the dragon king religion was believed by half the people on the planet who lived their life's following the precepts of the said dragon, would the story be any truer?'
They will have to answer, 'No, of course not'.
Then ask them: '
If, in four thousand years this belief became the dominant one on the planet would how long the belief had been around and how many believe it, make it any more true?'
It doesn't.
Then explain to them that something that cant be disproved is not valid just because it can't be disproved. And that basing your entire view of the universe and everything in it, on a theory is not true just because it can not be disproved.
At this point they will probably utter something like, 'You are being stupid', before ending the discussion.
Then ask them to confirm that they think the dragon god theory is silly. When they have done so just say;
'Guess what? I see no difference between someone who lives their life by the dragon story and you, who lives your life by your god story. They are both as silly as each other'.
How they respond to this will depend on which brand of skygod they worship. They may well shake their head sadly and turn away saying, 'I pity you but will pray for you'. Or they may well tell you you deserve physical and eternal death.
Either way, it signifies that they can proceed no further in a logical discussion.
At this point, just thank them for reflecting so warmly, the nature of their skygod and say goodbye.
But understand this. You can not debate god with a godbod. No matter what brand of god story they believe, they will never be able to hold a proper discussion with you about it's validity.
Religious people are like people who wear blinkers.
The facts and information they accept are not based on the truth of that information or the validity of the facts.
Instead, it is based, entirely, on whether or not they can fit it in with their pre conceived ideas.
They will reject, out of hand, anything that does not fit their, already made, conclusions.
Of course, the proper way to find the truth is to look at all the evidence, test all the statements and ideas and then, when you have found which are logically sound and which are not, you make an educated decision.
The religious can not do that.
Because they have already decided what the truth is.
Even and ridiculously, before looking at the evidence.
That is one of the reasons that so called 'creation science' is so pathetic and how come 'Young Earth Creationists' , who believe that the earth is the oldest object in the universe at between 5 to 7 thousand years old. are particularly laughable.
They have no interest in the truth.
They will simply dismiss even the most obvious of truths.
So I would recommend that you don't even bother entering into a discussion about god's existence with them. It is, aside from the entertainment value and laugh-ability of their arguments, a waste of your time.
Have a good day people.
And don't be intimidated or impressed by those who think that YOU should live by THEIR beliefs. Even THEY don't live by THEIR beliefs.
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